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Convener: Catherine Miller
Session Participants:Megan Mills, Jennifer Hartley, Charles Uchu, Mac Newman, Lynn Lidz, Larry Buell, Lynn and Julian from South Africa, Jono Neiger, Frank Deidle
Time: 12:30-2
Place: B

Session Notes: Hard to talk/think about metric or ways to measure sustainability until we agree on what sustainability is. So we spent some time thinking about that. There are 4 worlds of sustainability: physical, emotional, mental, spiritual. How does one measure an amoeba? You feel it.
We talked about the need to be wary of choosing a measure just because it is measurable--b/c then it might take over. You don't want the measurements to produce behavior. (or do you???)
What is the goal for spiritual sustainability? Everyone loved this question.
Perhaps what we want to know is, are we achieving our intentions?
Be wary of behavior taking over vision.
Isn't measuring a teasing of the mind?
We may have to accept doing this incrementally. i.e. for now bio fuels make sense--but they are an interim solution. not THE solution.
We need "gap solutions".
Be careful--we do NOT want to sustain what is.
Differentiate between sustain and sustainability.
What do we want to sustain? Joy in our communities.
ID people we can trust and who know how to measure things and ask them!

Resources: sustainlane website U.S. that has sustainability metrics for cities. www.keysregion.org, Dreamweaver, Spencer Phillips, Elizabeth Kline-Tufts, What the Bleep? and Down the Rabbit Hole, Human Design

Metrics: imported energy; avg. miles that fod travels; # farmer's markets; CSA subscribers in a region; distributed energy v. grid;



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BillLabich Sustainability based on what assumptions! 0 Feb 3 2007, 4:10 PM EST by BillLabich
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Hey everyone, I wish I was there, but at least I can post this comment to you. Thanks for considering it.
I think that these questions that you have been asking, and that you reflect in your postings, suggest a view that collectively maybe you are thinking that we have time to make a shift towards a more sustainable furture within the context of possibilities. For example, before our twins were born, I think I had this attitude that if I wanted to make something happen, I could just do it. BK, before kids, I was relatively resource-rich (money, time, brain cells, relationship-points in the "account" with my partner, etc.).Then the kids came, and all turned to molasses. I couldn't have fathomed how even simple tasks took herculean efforts. So, I wonder, if the transition to alternative energy use will be organicaly grown, or artificially thrust upon us by some tripped threshold trigger. If we assume we will have time to grow into the state of sustainability, then all kinds of measures make sense as we seek to shift our society towards worshipping a new sun, a difficult task indeed. However, if we assume that our need to be sustainable is immediate and without question based on both global warming and peak oil, I suggest that this means that I, me, and my family, and my local community, and you in yours, and all of the surrounding communities need to leap frog quickly to the new paradigm. Let's describe what life in the ideal, sustainable world will be, could be, if we have time, and if we don't. Maybe then we can identify how to jump the gap between where we are todayand where we know we want to o.
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