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Convener: Ian + Ethan
Session Participants: Ian, Ethan, Greg
Time: somewhere betwen the first session and lunch
Place: octagon room

Session Notes:
Unofficaial small-group discussion sprung up concerning the Deep Green Resistance conference and the Permaculture approach to sustainable change.

Permaculture is coming from a perspective of positive change, usually non-confrontational and solutions-focused.

The ideas behind Deep Green Resistance are more confrontational -- focusing on direct action to damage/bring down the dominant and destructive societal systems.

Both permaculture and deep green resistance are extremely interested in 'systems thinking' -- examining and understanding the whole systems we are dealing with in order to locate 'leverage points' that can be acted upon to create significant systemic change.

Some good discussion examining the emotional roots of both forms of action -- Ethan wants to be moving from a place of joy + love, and feels that some resistance is moving from a place of fear and anger. Ian makes it clear that resistance can also come from a place of love and balance - a love for natural ecosystems and a responsibility to defend them.

The group agrees that both paths of action are important, and are part of the same larger 'movement' - we encourage folks from both paths to be aware of each other's activities, and understand that they both fill important niches in the whole system.

For example, Ian was invited to list his conference at the Northeastern Permaculture Wiki, and Ethan was invited to provide Permaculture events + contact info for the Deep Green Resistance conference.

For more info about the Deep Green Resistance conference, visit http://deepgreenresistnace.blogspot.com

For more info about permaculture in the northeast, visit the Northeastern Permaculture Wiki - www.northeasternpermaculture.wikispaces.com



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Anonymous treating oil dependence like an actual addiction 0 Mar 11 2009, 2:26 PM EDT by Anonymous
 
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Hi, Linda here ... I'm new to this wiki. I'm reading "The Transition Handbook" by Rob Hopkins of Totnes, England, which offers guidelines for "powering down" and relocalizing economies and agriculture.
I like Hopkins' suggestion about how to convince opponents of climate change and peak oil -- he asserts that we should treat energy dependence like an actual addiction, acting more as "counselors" to people who refuse to give up their oil intensive lifestyles. As with drug/alcohol addicts, he suggests using the FRAMES model:
FEEDBACK
Offer an honest assessment of their addiction problem and its possible consequences to raise awareness of the problem.
RESPONSIBILITY
Talk about the amount of personal responsibility it will take for the addict to break the addiction.
ADVICE
Give clear advice (as a recommendation, not a prescription) about modifying their lives in terms of energy efficiency, and about community-scale strategies for energy descent.
MENU OF OPTIONS
People need to feel they've explored their alternatives. They need a process to explore what those options might be.
EMPATHY
Aggressive, authoritarian approaches don't persuade addicts to change. Offer support and empathy and a sense of optimism about embarking on a collective journey. This implies a two-way dialogue.
SELF-EFFICACY
The person needs to feel that s/he can succeed in reaching a specific goal (like giving up alcohol or reducing their oil dependency). Building this "can do" sense is essential.
He also points out that addicts often backslide but should not give up hope of achieving sobriety! They need lots of support.
This is a small part of the book, which has a remarkably complete vision of how to create sustainability -- Curious what you think.
-- Linda
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BillLabich A Third Path of Action 0 Feb 3 2007, 8:24 PM EST by BillLabich
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Is it possible to see the third path as being one that seeks to work with people where they are now? Helping people realize what their vision for their own community is, and how what they have now is inconsistent with where they say they want to be. It comes down many times to empowerment or the lack there of. People who are angry are entiltled. Got it. I can go there too. And though we do need the angry people to be just that, it is the person that can put the message in a joke, in a personal story, that can sink it in, that can make it real for the other person, real enough for them to care about it. Also, people who want systems and other people to change think because they changed, others should be able to do so too. But changing a habit is hard enough, changing the paradigm from which one acts is a big boulder to roll.
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